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when owner says he David Griffin hablar

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en espanol no no no podia I wish David

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Griffin es el funded recordin adored axo

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política Ngram britannia es un activista

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provecho sociales que aunque en

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principio no tiene un interesa no tuvo

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un interspecific on Laurel a sonado con

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el contacto state arrest ray ck

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descubrió que se trata de una formula el

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hablar de sol política para mover el

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mundo para cambiarlo rah cambiarlo des

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de dentro hace que no importa claro no

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creer see no trabajar por el planeta

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quise hacer más importante inclusive que

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creer trabaja hace que debe de fin bad

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are no sue perspectiva sobre la question

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hola buenas tardes thank you thank you

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for being here having had watched this

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community develop over the last five or

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six years it's a great privilege to see

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so many people here today and I'm really

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thankful that you've all made the effort

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in the interest to to come we've already

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said we've all got different ideas about

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the national size that we've run we

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don't always agree on everything and so

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I've taken the liberty of changing my

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talk a little bit after what we heard

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yesterday about some of the things that

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Bob Dean said and secret space fleets

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and things then I'm not going to it's

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still going to have a UK definition to

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it but I'm I've changed a few things cuz

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I think there's a few issues that come

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to light given what we heard yesterday

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so i want to i want to mention those

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anyway yet my name's david griffin i set

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up the UK initiative in 2006 it was the

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first sight national site outside of the

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American continent and really as

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developed quite quickly and we've got a

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good a good group of people now over to

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her involved in the in the UK so I just

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wanted to give an idea just quickly if

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what Exopolitics has grown to sort mean

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to me just on a sort of basic

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fundamental level on quite interested in

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in the way Exopolitics has grown as a

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concept and we've seen it we've seen it

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sort of blossom in the last few years so

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I at one point always comes to mind when

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I think about

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politics is this idea when when

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politicians are asked about the UFO

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issue and this has happened for a sort

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of a good decade or two now in fact this

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happened with Obama quite recently while

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Obama was being elected a White House

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journalist I think it was asked the

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question about the UFO ET issue and

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that's what you know what Obama's going

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to do about it and Obama gave the

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classic reply which is no you know we

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have to deal with we have to deal with

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the situation down here before we can

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deal with the situation up there and I

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think this comes to the core what XO

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policy is about it's about dissolving

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these boundaries that there is no

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difference between down there and up

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here and essentially we're dealing with

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trying to dissolve that idea so we can

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work the 22 together that problems on

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terrestrial problems can in fact be

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dealt with by looking into the whole

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area free energy space exploration that

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XO politics deal with that includes like

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dissolving the the difference the

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boundary between terrestrial and

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extraterrestrial human versus alien and

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ultimately self and other and I the the

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reason Exopolitics attracted me in the

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first place you know more perhaps more

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than the straight UFO field was because

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I can see the way that it pulled in

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these multiple areas and wasn't afraid

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to deal with the multiple areas we say

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it often works on a sort of a parallel

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processing level it's a

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multidisciplinary approach and and I

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think that's the you know we live in a

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complex hero it's a complex cultural

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time and we need a discipline that does

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just that isn't afraid to pull in these

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different areas you know whether it's

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something strange is mythology and also

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new physics Exopolitics has done really

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well in pulling these areas in and

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focusing it through the lens of the ET

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and UFO issue the the other point i

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thought was really interesting that's

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this mentioned now and then if you look

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at the various polls that come out when

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the public are actually asked about you

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know what's their acceptance all their

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belief in ET UFO issues it usually comes

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around about last few years last decade

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or so it comes out around about

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two-thirds or seventy percent like the

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roper poll and i just wanted you to

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think about what other area what you

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got 70 sent public belief in something

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is excluded from the main cultural

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institutions such as such as higher

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education you know and maybe in so far

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that that that's that inertia that that

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reluctance to take hold of the et UFO

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issue it says something or contradictory

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it may well mean that this is this is a

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pertinent issue and that's that's why

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this issue is about to break through in

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fact the one area that's actually

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dealing with this property I think at

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the moment and hopefully leading away

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it's Michael saliz Exopolitics journal

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which I'm also a contributing editor to

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so if you want to have a look some good

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articles have a look at the Exopolitics

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journal side so yet just focusing on the

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UK briefly then Nick Pope cover this I'm

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not going to go into huge amount of

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detail but really interesting that the

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UK was a focus in 2008 of huge world

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reports in the press because we had

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sightings basically rapidly increased in

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in 2009 we're looking at looking at the

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situation where again reporting

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sightings are actually go into double if

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you go back to 2008 as a page from the

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UK site and we had a huge debate

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comments feedback on the forum regards

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UFO sightings and really you know 2008

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was a huge area with some great cases if

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you go to the UK site and have a look

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you of that thread particularly you'll

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see some really interesting feedback one

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thing after yesterday that I wanted to

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to focus on because I thought I can't

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let this conference go by I wasn't going

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to mention it without it's trying to

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point out we discuss Bob Dean and Henry

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deacon came on in a few other people

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we've been discussing about structures

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on Mars on the moon the idea of a secret

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space fleet all these things and I ended

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up thinking yesterday will to an extent

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it's good that we think about all these

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issues but at the end of the day the UFO

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and et field has a long list of

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casualties from people that have

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actually come forward and blowing the

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whistle or just reveal the truth or

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denied their security owns and basically

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come forward now Gary McKinnon is

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probably the moment is the most

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important one of these two UK citizen

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that spy

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60 years in jail for four actually yeah

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Gary's facing 60 years at the moments

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when when in fact the British government

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were hoping to it was actually going to

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get a very basic what we call a

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community service order for what he did

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but it seems the Americans are not

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playing ball with this so the poor guys

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had seven years I've been having

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constant court dates and I'm just

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briefly go through his case but I just

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wanted to make a point that you know

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what steve bassett calls the truth

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embargo all the cover-up has many

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casualties it's not just Gary they go

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back you know we could list we could

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almost many of them so Gary's case some

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of you may know about this but basically

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Gary began looking into this issue the

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free energy issue because in Britain in

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in the round about the year 2000 we had

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a big problem with with high cost energy

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and we got situation where elderly

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people were actually having to decide

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whether they could turn the heating on

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in the day or actually actually decide

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that they wanted to eat it was getting

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that it was getting that bad that energy

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was costing that much this was one of

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the key points as well as his interest

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in UFOs the mazing go looking on these

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military networks for information regard

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to free energy and the UFO issue that

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was the driving force behind it he

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accessed several military networks

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government networks like NASA the

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Pentagon etc and ultimately was found

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out in 2002 and arrested by the British

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high-tech National Crime Unit and as I

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mentioned as then that since then

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there's been this seven years struggle

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to to actually extradite him for his

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what they call hacking but really he

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admits he's no he's no genius it was

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this video should play I think

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the got some sound any sound

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okay no no sounds right well based

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that's a BBC news report that that went

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into into Gary's case is quite

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interesting he's got an interview is

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only a couple of minutes long it's got

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an interview with him but I think we've

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got this microphone I think there's some

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sound issues at the moment so we'll

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we'll skip that what I did want to back

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up is the situation that not a lot of

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people know about and that's another

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another case that actually links in with

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Gary's case is another UK citizen just

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briefly mentioned the reasons why I

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think Gary was a guy who's actually

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caught and why they pursue into the

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greed they are basically humiliations

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through the security measures that were

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in place and in the US networks were

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pretty much basic if you look into the

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interviews that he said there was very

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basic cover he managed to find passwords

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that was set to the default settings are

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managed to get through so there's a huge

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degree of embarrassment and humiliation

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on behalf of the Americans who want to

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sort of punish him or keeping quiet for

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this Gary also mentioned a few people

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know this that there were hundreds of

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Chinese IP addresses also going around

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these military networks and if you keep

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an eye on the news recently China's also

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been accused of doing cyber terrorism on

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American American organizations at the

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moments they've hacked websites in the

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last few weeks and stuff so this is this

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is ongoing but of course to to go and

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chase and arrest a Chinese citizen is

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going to cause far much more you know

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it's going to cause an international

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incident far more than the chasing the

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perhaps of British or even a US citizen

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and then of course we come on to what

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Gary what Gary found wish for those who

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don't know was highly interesting i

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think you know it's extra political in

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its in its nation has big ramifications

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for our area of study personally

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nasa doc enough sir photos he actually

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found he went cleverly he went to the

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same area that Donna hair did if you

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seen the disclosure project video where

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there was one file for unbrushed UFOs

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and one file for the ones that have been

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altered and Gary found the same building

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and sounds like a sound virtually the

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same office and and basically confirmed

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what she'd what she said interesting as

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well he found a list of non-terrestrial

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officers which you can make off what you

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will have been lots of discussion about

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an addition a spreadsheet of Fleet to

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flee transfers now the interesting thing

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about those is is of course that he

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checked up and they weren't fleet at in

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seagoing naval terrestrial ships they

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were he couldn't find the names of the

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ships that he found on this spreadsheet

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he couldn't find them linked to any

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seagoing vessels so we're looking again

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evidence of some sort of secret space

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fleet that's probably running

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transnationally or serving from from

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America what sir again another UK

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citizen that service linked is another

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Bristol bro that's also run into trouble

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it's a guy called John ladder balsam and

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you may have seen his these shots on

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sort on the web if you've looked if

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you've looked around these he he got

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into what we call a stroke videography

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and found these huge great huge great

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machines out in sort of low medium Earth

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orbit and managed to get a really

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high-tech camera to to actually video

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these if you go online you'll find video

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and it gets quite high resolution

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they're still murky has got another

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picture here I think there's a few more

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there and but these are you know

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essentially these EC's uncovered

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something mammoth here these are huge

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great space stations we've this video of

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the moving around they've done some size

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estimates on them and these things are a

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massive what's interesting is back in

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two thousand eight I contacted a NASA

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employee man just found a name of

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someone I was bound commenting on

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something else and sent him and asked

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him what he thought of this and he told

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me not to release his name or even the

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information that he gave but i just

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thought i'd do it now i just think it's

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getting too late so this was in 2008 and

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if no one believes me i have the i have

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the email i'll gladly show you i'm just

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not going to show you the guy's name he

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works for JPL the Jet Propulsion

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laboratories and this is what he said

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regards john lennon wall sins images so

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a personal email response from the NASA

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JPL in boys September 2008 he says

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someone sent me similar images about six

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months ago so and these are military

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classified human spaceflight the second

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thing he said is I thought this was just

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as interesting johnson Johnson Space

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Center require a large elaborate

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spacecraft to get them where they need

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to go

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so again you know straight from the

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horse's mouth from a JPL NASA employee

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we have something that backs up what we

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were discussing on Saturday with the

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girls secret space fleet and maybe the

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master and also what gary mckinnon found

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again feeling into these images that

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this British Astro videographer found

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interestingly again just regards the the

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the idea that was saying about

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whistleblowers and these these two UK

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citizens I think the validation in what

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this guy found the videographer found

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within within a couple of days of him

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putting his photos the ones that I

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showed you online regarding space

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objects the British military then then

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it basically buzzed flew in over his

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house for weeks on end with you can see

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here full proper military helicopters

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his life was made a misery he was

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followed around and so I think I think

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again that validates the fact they

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didn't want this information out and

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links links this whole thing up and it's

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just making the point that so you know

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some of these people put their their

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silly their lifestyles on the line if

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not their lives with regard to releasing

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this information so a regards to UK then

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I just wanted to just someone was with

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you I mean Nick Pope's covered a lot of

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this and he mentioned the fire fire

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release in the UK which has been really

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good and really quite useful I just said

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that the following points of left I

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think Britain in a great place for the

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sort of 2009 2010 Gary McKinnon space

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interestingly i think the alternative

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media like the internet actually paved

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the way for what the mainstream media

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such as the BBC actually did we we

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actually saw the case and sympathy for

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Gary McKinnon switch roundabout sort

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three or four months ago and I think

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that was again down to efforts on behalf

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of the UFO XO XO politics community to

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push his case push the truth remove a

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lot of the lies and exaggerations about

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this case and things like YouTube and

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forums and all this have helped push

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Gary's case and perhaps put a bit of

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pressure on so he's now getting a lot of

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support but generally that'sthat's

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increased public awareness of this whole

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area the Freedom of Information request

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to the mo d stuff that Nick Pope touched

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on very very interesting it's got yo

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head lines in the cases they've got

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headlines in many papers in the UK so

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really you're really interesting I wear

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this again public profile that you

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fo ET issue gang getting huge now also

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as thought was interesting that near

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cousins Nick might not agree with this

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by I thought the Milton Torres case that

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Nick Pope mentioned actually switches on

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its head the hold the mo deals put

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sadness mantra that UFOs with no defense

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significance no defense significance and

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yet if you look at the milton torrance

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case where they were ordered to shoot

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down a UFO over britain then I think I

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beg to differ whether that's defense

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significance I think the fact they're

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telling them to shoot down a UFO says

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says something different and also yeah a

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general vast increase in sightings as

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you mentioned between 2008 2009 and this

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year that that basically public

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awareness of this issue and media

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treatment of this issue has changed even

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even I major tabloid the Sun which is

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well known for being quite trashy is now

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it's now treating this issue a little

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bit well that the little green men are

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no longer appearing in the in the

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comments section unless a minute please

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okay so yeah this last slide anyway so

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I've just put the in the evolution for

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the UK the eve of evolution of the extra

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political XO mystical issues that the UK

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could act as a release valve for the USA

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in other words like sometimes we're seen

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as a testing ground for the USA and

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things happen here before I hadn't

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happened in America if we put together

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the knowledge to formulate the the

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European agreement that's that Robert

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spoke about then I think something could

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happen in Europe alone or the UK's in a

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position given what's happened to lead

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in its own right so as far as the UK's

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then we're aiming to continue raising

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awareness promote c5 tight contact that

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something's I'm quite keen on doing this

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year next year implement some of the

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structures if we can and the European

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Declaration which we've read out and

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continue encourage encouraging education

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and media organizations to to take up

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this case so that's it from me thank you

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for thank you for listening

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thank you